I will never forget the look on Jo-Ann Turner's face today as she heard that she and Ron had won "Best of Show" at the New Gloucester Fair car show. Her expression was absolutely priceless. But their 1950 Willys was deserving, as it is a nearly perfect example of a "points" car. A vehicle to be proud of.
The day had started out quite chilly, as predicted, but contrary to what the weatherman had predicted, the sun came out and it was almost quite pleasant. A record number of vehicles showed up, folks from almost every corner of Maine.
I had the opportunity to meet with Joe Murray, the primary organizer of the show. A very pleasant and amiable man. He did express concern about a greater need for better classes, but most particularly the need for better policing of the classes. He is considering using a more effective method next year, assigning classes at the gate by the club. By providing better class structure and stricter assigning of classes at the gate, this neat little end-of-the-season Lions show will only get better for all.
This show gave us the opportunity to say "good-bye for the season" to many good friends. But many expressed a desire to get together at Two Trails Diner in Standish once each month over the winter. It was good to hear that they expect to swing by at least once or twice - these folks are so special that it is good to keep in touch.
I'm still collecting and resizing of contributed pix of the Fryeburg Fair Grand Parade. Hope to get them posted soon. Keep an eye out for them.
Later!
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Hey, Bill, why didn't you talk about the childish BS that the Road Scholars pulled at the show today? I thought you would be jumping all over those idiots. Or why the show organizers allowed it. You let me down.
I am sorry, but it's not my job to keep you from feeling "let down" :o) But frankly, I have no need to comment on something everyone already knows.
Bill
The show was nice and the weather held out for us.Tho a chilly start. The few things that made myself and a few others upset was the tuners that showed up and started being unruley. They were asked several times by Many people to calm it down and lower the music. They did for a while. then it was getting really irritating then much to our amaze Little Connie Peacock went over and said something to them and they not to much longer after that left. The other thing that burned my buttons was the B.S. that went on in special interest. From supposably a NO B.S. Club!! NO NEED OF IT! Just shows how immature people can be.
They need more classes no doubt and More Policing of the classes.They deffinatly need a Turner class way out in the back 40.LOL! They are usually a large class and to get put in Imports took from the rest that were there. Yes they technatly are Imports but they are a league of thier own.
Bill,
Glad to see, seemingly, that you've gotten past the childish nature of 'spittin'. To those that were upset about entries in 'Special Interest', those cars did indeed fit the clear definition of that class.
To one and all, don't be surprised next season when very few shows may allow a special interest class. Everyone use the winter months to decide where you expect that your cars will be placed in those shows.
Pretty soon the sandbox wil be frozen and covered with snow. Stay warm and cuddle with someone you love.
Grace, all but TWO of the vehicles in Special Interest were most definitely out of their class, and did NOT fit the description. Perhaps you should take a few moments to actually UNDERSTAND the definition -that the vehicle must, first and foremost, be built for a specific and unique FUNCTION (none but the Willys met that definition) or must follow a unique RECURRING THEME (only the PT Woody fit that description.) Frank says his car meets the criterion as a "racecar", which is, in itseklf, laughable. A street rod built for possible street racing is NOT a "racecar" by any stretch, and certainly not unique. And a street racer is not a theme, either. Perhaps he needs to get out the dictionary to find out what a THEME is - it is a topic, a storyline and if recurring (which is necessary for SI) tells a story that everyone who sees it will unnderstand. TOMATOR, owned by Sol Orff is a classic example.
More to the point - and one that you, Frank and a few other people keep ignoring is that registration should be in THE MOST APPROPRIATE CLASS. Frank's car is a street rod - even he knows that. So that is the MOST APPROPRIATE CLASS, regardless of any other BS he may want to spout about it being a "racecar".
Bill,
I would like to point out that the Willys Jeepster was not the "Tough and Versatile" vehicle that you make it out to be in your posting of Oct. 4- the Willys JEEP was- not the JeepSTER. The Jeepster was designed as a normal-use vehicle (it was actually called a roadster BY WILLYS) designed to capitalize on the familiarity of the Jeep with the GI's returning to the emerging suburbs of the late
40's/early 50's. It is a 2 wheel drive, its ground clearance is lower than a Jeep's and had extra amenities added to make it more appealing to the civillian market- Hardly the spartan, rugged 4 wheel drive Jeep that was also available at that time.
This is not to take anything from the vehicle that you speak of, it is a really nice vehicle that has been beautifully restored. It's owners (I forget their names-horrible with that)seem like very nice people, based on the few times I have talked to them.I have noticed them hanging out with you at many shows, and I'm wondering if this is maybe giving you a reason to "overlook" the fact that this vehicle, again, while very nice should not be in SI, but in the proper year catagory?
If you "overlook" or bend the rules for friends, it kinda looks bad when you blast others for the same thing.
As for my car and the Road Scholars cars being in SI yesterday, NONE OF US DISPLAYED A VOTING NUMBER! What did it matter where we put our cars? No votes were taken by us from anyone!
I sincerely hope that the show organizers will realize how much drama SI causes and will eliminate it from their shows, I am so tired of long beaten dead horse!
I hope you post this, but am not holding my breath.
Hi, Mike. While I appreciate your concern for my integrity, it remains intact. "I" did not make the Willys out to be anything. My posting on the Willys was 100% accurate, and ALL of that info came directly from reputable sources, such as Hemmings and the Willys Company stats and specs on the vehicle, and NOT from me.
Whether or not the Turners are friends has nothing to do with anything - we have many friends, and NONE of them get preferential treatment because of that. Nor does friendship get anyone my vote.
And I DID state that, when the proper year category was available, they would probably be better suited to it, but since both categories are legit, it is their choice. Just like the PT - it is just as legit in SI as it is in 2000-Present. Yours is just as legit in "80's" as it is in RIP. But a Street Rod is a Street Rod. Some vehicles are suited to more than one class, EQUALLY. Most are not. Some people have the luxury of choice, while others do not.
Whether or not you and your compatriots displayed a voting number has nothing to do with anything. That is not the issue. The issue revolves around whether or not you should have even BEEN there in the class, and the mere fact that the PURPOSE of the act was to INSTIGATE PROBLEMS. You folks, not HotKarz, are the progenitors of the problems. I simply point them out. That silly, immature act confused many, upset many more, and your inappropriate actions have caused more "drama" in that one act than most folks have seen all season. So much for the "no drama" club, eh?
And just WHICH "unique function" or "unique, recurring theme" does a 1984 relatively stock and unrestored Caddy have that would warrant you putting it in SI for ANY reason?
For you people to be in Special Interest, regardless of the "reason" is like you boys going to the ladies room - you don't belong there, at any time, for any reason. If you have a point to make, use mature, legitimate methods, such as presenting a case based on facts and truth, and not BS and drama.
My caddy is a 78.
The point remains the same, regardless of the year of your Caddy. I apologize for mistaking the year - I have not been a Caddy person since the '60, so I am not up on them.
Hey Bill, I did not attend this show for I have already put the car up for the year. I heard many different things about this show. I would like to point out that on behalf of Team 207 that our members that attended the show today and were with the malcontents that decided to be so unruly that none of our members participated in that. We maintained a level of respect that we have at all the shows this year. We understand that not EVERYONE wants to hear loud, gut pounding, music first thing in the morning or all day for that matter. I really hope this show improves because it definitely has the potential to be a great show if better organized. I also hope that the select few disrespectful people that attended that show don't return next year. As you've stated, and I agree, that it's time for things to change and all these weekly, unneeded, actions stop or at least fade out so we can potentially all get along and enjoy the shows the way they are supposed to be.
Hi, Andy. Glad to hear from you. And yes, most of us know the unruly tuners were NOT Team 207, which were respectful and well mannered. The rude, ill-mannered ones were new to the shows in this area - no one knew who they were or where they came from. They swaggered around like they thought they were really something - which leads me to believe they were from a major metro area like Boston or NY.
N o Team 207 did not Have ANYTHING TO DO with the UNRULEY Group that showed up. No one knew who they were. But If They return to a show agian they should be either asked to leave or respect the show and it's participants. I would like to know what it was that Connnie Peacock saidto them.Cause no-one else could get them to listen.
Bill with regards to the following:
"The rude, ill-mannered ones were new to the shows in this area - no one knew who they were or where they came from. They swaggered around like they thought they were really something - which leads me to believe they were from a major metro area like Boston or NY."
You will be sad to know that they are in fact from Maine. In talking to several other people I was able to find out they are in fact from the Lewiston area.
Hello, Jon. Yes, that IS very sad. Mainer's are generally not like that, and it is a sorry thing that the culture of the cities is beginning to spread into, and taint, the great state of Maine. I saw it happen in NH not long ago. Manchester was full of good and decent folks. Then droves began moving up from Lawrence and Lowell, bringing their gangs with them. In short order, there were drive-by shootings, drug wars and everything the gangs bring. That was the main reason we moved to Maine - we hoped it would be a long time before it happened here.
I would bet that most of their parents were not born in Maine...that kind of behavior is not normally "organic", just sprouting up. It is usually something that spreads out, like an infection.
Ok, For those who wish to know what I said, here it is: I walked up and stood with my hands in my pockets and looked at 3 of them and said " You have been asked several times to stop. You are being Loud, Rude and Obnocious, NOW PLEASE STOP!" and walked away. They hollard some things at me and I turned and tipped my hat and continued on. Shortly later they left.These were Kids that I have never seen at a show. They had nothing to do with Team 207. Team 207 is or always have been very polite and respectful.
Connie
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